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#109153 - 07/08/04 09:27 AM
Frederick Braue
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does anybody have any info on Frederick Braue, co writer of Royal road, etc? This question has come up on another Forum, and I was surprised that there is little , if anything about him on line.
Thanks... Dale
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#109155 - 07/08/04 01:50 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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When I was a "mean little kid" (pre-teen) the Oakland Tribune (newspaper) had a kid's page, titled "AUNT ELSIE'S PAGE"... so one day they announce a cartoon contest.
I drew cartoons, so I sent one in. The following week the list of winners was in the paper... and I was winner of first prize and was told to phone the newspaper and ask for "Aunt Elsie."
Some guy answered the phone, I asked for "Aunt Elsie" the guy said, "That's me, I edit the page. My real name is Fred Braue."
And I won $5.00 (in the 1940s that went a long way).
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#109156 - 07/09/04 08:08 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Fred Braue's column in Hugards's Magic Monthly was one of the best features of the magazine. In one sentence Fred could give a tip that would make an ordinary effect a blockbuster.
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#109157 - 07/09/04 10:51 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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#109158 - 05/26/06 08:31 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Frederick Braue is my great grandfather!!!
-deven braue
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#109159 - 05/26/06 08:33 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Originally posted by Deven Braue: Frederick Braue is my great grandfather!!!
-deven braue Wow! And welcome to the Genii Forum
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#109160 - 05/26/06 08:54 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Welcome aboard Devan... Fred was one great writer and editor.
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#109161 - 05/26/06 09:06 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Originally posted by Pete Biro: When I was a "mean little kid" (pre-teen) the Oakland Tribune (newspaper) had a kid's page, titled "AUNT ELSIE'S PAGE"... so one day they announce a cartoon contest.
I drew cartoons, so I sent one in. The following week the list of winners was in the paper... and I was winner of first prize and was told to phone the newspaper and ask for "Aunt Elsie."
Some guy answered the phone, I asked for "Aunt Elsie" the guy said, "That's me, I edit the page. My real name is Fred Braue."
And I won $5.00 (in the 1940s that went a long way). And to see that early Biro cartoon, go HERE And for an early photo of Pete the athlete, go HERE Handsome devil, wasn't he.
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#109162 - 05/26/06 10:47 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Loc: Hollyweird
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HOly cow... isn't the internet amazing? Yah we won the city championship cuz I hardly played a game!
However, in the Police League, I had 400 batting average. I got the ONLY HIT in a one-hitter our opposing pitcher had, and in the same game caught a NO HITTER from our pitcher! Game was called due to darkness! Finally got to pitch one game and struck out 10 in the win.
Quit playing after a teammate died in a fatal accident.
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#109163 - 05/26/06 12:26 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Deven are you related to Genie?
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#109164 - 05/27/06 06:04 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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A year before his death, my dear friend Jerry Camaro gave me his copy of the Braue Notebooks. It's a wonderful historical document that contains numerous gems.
Tom Frame
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#109165 - 05/27/06 06:41 PM
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Do you say his name "Brow-ee"?
And, on a Royal Road tangent, was Mr. Hugard "Jean" (like Jean-Luc) or "Jean" (like Gene)?
Thanks.
Greg McAlpin
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#109166 - 05/27/06 06:44 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 07/23/01
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Originally posted by mcalpin: And, on a Royal Road tangent, was Mr. Hugard "Jean" (like Jean-Luc) or "Jean" (like Gene)? Based on a misprint I saw in the newsletter for The Lamb's Club, I believe it's pronounced "Gene". -Jim
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#109167 - 05/28/06 03:41 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Several years ago when I was researching the Braue family, I spoke with quite a few Braues all over the U.S.
I appears, that the entire family is descended from four brothers who came to the U.S. from Germany in the late 19th century. It is pronounced differently depending on local family tradition, so there's at least:
Brow Brow-ee Bro
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#109169 - 05/28/06 10:02 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Richard,
His real name, I understand, was John Gerard Rodney Boyce. The first book that inspired him to be a conjuror was Professor Hoffmann's translation of a work by Jean Eugene Robert-Houdin. Hugard may have adopted the first name "Jean" as a tribute or homage to Robert-Houdin, in which case, it would be pronounced "Jean" (as in the French) rather than "Gene". It would not surprise me, however, if American magicians - then and now - pronounced it "Gene".
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#109171 - 05/28/06 07:04 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Thank you for the response!
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#171902 - 07/31/08 01:34 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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yes i am related to him he's my great grandfather
deven braue
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#172013 - 07/31/08 09:05 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
[Re: Deven Braue]
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Registered: 01/18/08
Posts: 36
Loc: MI
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To 'Anonymous - Unregistered.' Hugard himself used 'Gene' as the pronunciation. At one point in his career he used the billing 'Les Hugardes' but dropped it when playing New Zealand, as the Kiwis kept asking where Les (Less) was.
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#172017 - 07/31/08 09:35 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
[Re: Deven Braue]
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Loc: California
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Very cool, Deven.
I read that Fred Braue died in 1962 which was just before my time. Did you get to know him?
Are you a magician?
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#181992 - 12/01/08 06:22 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
[Re: Deven Braue]
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Loc: Northern Virginia
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Was Fred Braue ever known as "Fritz" Braue?
I see card routines published by that name in the early days of Genii (1937, 1938).
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#181993 - 12/01/08 06:57 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
[Re: Joe Pecore]
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Was Fred Braue ever known as "Fritz" Braue?
I see card routines published by that name in the early days of Genii (1937, 1938). As far as I know, that's the same guy. -Jim
Edited by Jim Maloney (12/01/08 06:59 PM)
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#182118 - 12/03/08 01:08 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 150
Loc: Passau Germany
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Was Fred Braue ever known as "Fritz" Braue?
I see card routines published by that name in the early days of Genii (1937, 1938). As far as I know, that's the same guy. -Jim "Fritz" is a common first name in Germany! And "Braun" is a similar last name to "Braue". Is Fred Braue of German descent?
Edited by Reinhard Mueller (12/03/08 01:09 PM)
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#182123 - 12/03/08 01:27 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Earlier in this thread, Bob Farmer wrote: I appears, that the entire family is descended from four brothers who came to the U.S. from Germany in the late 19th century.
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#186804 - 02/03/09 04:08 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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deven is my daughter, its her great uncle or great great uncle I always get confused. We just refered to him as uncle fred or fritz.. Im another fred braue fred
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#186809 - 02/03/09 06:06 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Reinhard, isn't "Fritz" a common nickname or shortening for "Friedrich"?
Friedrich der Große (king of Prussia) was referred to as "der alte Fritz," I believe.
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#186838 - 02/04/09 12:45 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/18/08
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Loc: Germany
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yes - fritz used often in germany as a nickname for friedrich but also as a name on its own. Hannes
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#186857 - 02/04/09 11:48 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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deven is my daughter, its her great uncle or great great uncle I always get confused. We just refered to him as uncle fred or fritz.. Im another fred braue fred Thats rather cool.So,traditionaly uncles that do magic,(I am one myself) usualy spend time pulling coins out of ears, and being generaly nice. Was your great uncle like this? Im assuming he wasnt horrid, since your named after him.. Dale ( Im really glad i started this thread)
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#187072 - 02/07/09 09:37 AM
Re: Frederick Braue
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Registered: 01/17/08
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Loc: PARIS - FRANCE
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MUM, vol. 52, no 3, august 1962, page 158.
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#192694 - 04/22/09 05:04 PM
Re: Frederick Braue
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actually before my time,, my father is also a fred braue.. he had stuff around the house marked uncle fritz Im the JR fred
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